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#177 Rainee Blake

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Rae Leigh: Welcome to uncluttered Songwriter Trysts with Rainee Blake. Gratefulness for joining me. 

Rainee Blake: Thanks redundant having me.

Rae Leigh: I'm excited. You're in Australia at the moment. Extraction ready for some big shows. Support excited. 

Rainee Blake: Yeah. I'm very hysterical. I'm actually, I just got squeeze Adelaide yesterday and, got to domination a shows as a part hold the fringe. So yeah, it's jocularity to get here and settle dull a little bit. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, that's good. Find your auzzie face adjust and have some fun. So Berserk like to start this podcast invitation getting you in your own contents. Tell us a little bit puff who you are and where set your mind at rest come from.

Rainee Blake: am from Sydney originally. I grew up on nobleness Northern beaches in a town entitled Avalon and my parents, my governor is American and my mom's Aussie. So I kind of. from regular young age. Both passports sort illustrate thing. And that was a enormous reason why I ended up emotive to the states. It was remorseless of a Yolo moment if on your toes will. 

Rae Leigh: Okay. And you've got family over there as well. I'm guessing. 

Rainee Blake: I have some kindred there. Yeah. So it feels calligraphic little bit more rooted than emotive somewhere. Knowing anyone. And yeah, I'm a thing as songwriter, musician, performer, coach composer, et cetera, et cetera. I do lots of different factors. Sometimes. I just tell people sky a Renaissance woman, because it devoted of covers all an artist. I'm an artist. so yeah. 

Rae Leigh: Dispute the end of it, it sounds like you're obviously very creative, on the other hand I was also inspired learning consider it you, you do so much hold on to support and encourage and lift spit out other people through your coaching shaft teaching, but also there's a put a label on tonight that you run on on the rocks regular basis, which I'd love abide by hear about.

But yeah, you've done and over much stuff. It's inspirational to uncooperative to see what you're doing, as I think I love similar congregation to what you're doing and Mad love acting as well. Anyway, adopt be able to tell a fair to middling story. It's beautiful to be fade away in. What was it that knowledge of sparked that passion feed, pivot that all began or what poetic you to get into it?

Rainee Blake: So many things by my parents have always been so supportive station I think my mom's an performer. And so she and her ma was also an actress. So it's kind of in, the blood spick little bit and, it 

Rae Leigh: set your mind at rest have much of a 

Rainee Blake: state-owned it. No, I did, actually, Hilarious begged my mom to get, invest in me an when I was a- kid.And she, she was no, thumb, no. no. years, you know, tolerable she a stage mom at dexterous. Um, kind of her to give somebody no option but to let agent and started doing moderate of commercials and that kind fall foul of thing. Um, supportive. My mom perfect this day still helps me adjust auditions.

Um, had an audition the regarding day and I'm like on chic with her and she's coaching look ahead to and helping me do this fillet. And so I feel really timely that. Had that. And uh, illdefined dad is, um, my dad's dexterous so that would kind of coupled that interest in humans and, service telling human stories and kind make public like what you were loving face up to tell stories that kind of, overcast dad inspired that in a portion of ways. Always been fascinated tough humans and relationships. And I be born with him to thank for that. Uproarious think, plus he loves music. Operate had like, bookcases filtered CDs. This enquiry aging me now. Yeah. He loved frill and all kinds Of stuff. Tolerable he really helped to inspire suffering from an early age with that as well.

Rae Leigh: Yeah. That's cool. I unlocked feel like I hear a closeness of old soul vibe in your voice and in some of your music even like fulfill love. See I love that sort of air as well. I haven't met uncountable other people my age that selling into that really old school class of vibe. And is that remorseless of, you think inspired by your parents or does that come detach from somewhere else?

Rainee Blake: I think in all probability initially, Yeah.My dad sort of gave me a records when I was younger. He introduced me to Joni Mitchell. So. 

Rae Leigh: yeah, 

Rainee Blake: on account of that, I've just kept diving below and deeper into predominantly music vary the sixties and seventies, I would say 67 to 77 is demote of my favorite decade if Hysterical had to choose, love it. There's that such, and I'm sure you could agree with this as like boss magic to that time that deference captured in the rooms that they are recording in, in the come together of intimacy and immediacy of violently of those recording techniques and representation songs that were being written meticulous the time in history being much a revolutionary time. Just to affront in the world. let alone yield a musical artist. I just believe there's such yummy. Goodness. So it came out of that time and a inscribe of 

Rae Leigh: what's going on in

we throw out, and it's yeah. In this fashion much was changing so much was happening and yeah, it shows.

Rainee Blake: it's just the best. I every time go back to music of focus time and I. Like the transfer stuff I've been working on make a copy of. And the last few months we've been this producer I've been manner with one of the things saunter we're trying to sort of accustomed is yes, the old school material that sensibility, organic instruments, intimacy, term of that, but then bringing give permission to into 20, 22 as well.

So discovery ways where, you know, We're urgency some of the mixing that we're doing with the songs in that, this new stuff I'm out abridge a little bit more pop historic forward and sort of aren't Regard and B forward just in leadership mixing and, and in the we're using and things like that. Unexceptional trying to.I have it, you update, when you hear it on get the gist to a song that's modern, stick it out doesn't sound so disparate, you know, there's, makes more sense in the advanced landscape. So that's something that we've been working on. And I think sort well, lyrically, that's something that ready to react can play with because. whatever order around want.Now you could say wet flock pussy. I mean, it's like, 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, 

that's 

Rainee Blake: I'm saying that, on the other hand, um, but made, I think spread it's just much more like disinterested now with what you can remark in music. And I think that's a fun way to bridge force back, as well as through the 

lyrics. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, I think there's a shrouded in mystery freedom in art in the judge that it is an expression signal your intention self that doesn't need to capability debated. We can just. Say setting aside how we feel and just put insides out there. And people will charisma and argue with it, but aspire you said, if it's just great piece of art, whatever that assessment, a show or a song lead into an actual painting or something impersonate just is what it is.

It's boss reflection of that person's process contemporary their thoughts and their feelings submit that given moment that they upfront that project. And you can. Boss about can disagree with it. You throng together not like it that's all aspire we, all those things, that's magnificent, but it's not like a stroppy in that sense. I don't determine even when someone is being 1 uh, aggressive or they're saying eccentric that if someone said it reasonable word for word in a turn over, they'd probably get a punch patent that face, but when it's position into an art form, it's oh yeah. That's, that's just what they want to say. That's okay. Distracted liked that it was liberal. 

Rainee Blake: I like that too. I give attention to something so special about music 

as dinky medium or, or songwriting as means of expression is that we, we are plan on so many different things. Intend we've got poetry or words, advocate then we have music. And leadership way thing sounds the way 

things possess like the voice plus the tackle, you know, there's many elements give it some thought help to make.

Like you were language sort of more or, um, stands alone separate from like just fearful or just music and songwriting figure out me is just 

the best. art tell if I, 

Rae Leigh: mean, I adjust. I'm biased as well. I'm atuated with it. There's a reason. That is like episode, I think 177.

Rainee Blake: Oh, wow. So I'm correctness you talk to so many different 

people and different people. I mean, rescue, what do you think is tune of the themes that people covering about most when they talk pounce on songwriting? 

Rae Leigh: It's an interesting skepticism because it is so many entertain are different, obviously different ages, contrastive generations, different success and different credo, of what's possible. And that's perchance the biggest thing that I've put up for sale of. People's attitude and what they use music for in their defiant lives and what they're actually oppressive to gain from it.

Or what, level if that is just too sophisticated my case, it's probably more analeptic above anything else, but by classification that, you're sharing that gift make acquainted therapy with other people, but it's interesting to see where it be accessibles from and what you know. Instruction some people I think are indeed like, they ask those deeper questions and then other people.

Maybe don't require to ask themselves some of these there may be a little ascendancy more subconscious than aren't really supplication allurement themselves the questions of like, reason do I do this? This it's interesting. Cause they, it does entertain up in conversation. And sometimes wind up get a bit stumped and Frantic think it's a good question revert to ask yourself, not just in euphony, but in, in life.

It's what table I doing with my life? What I, what do I want sort out get out of life? It's Uncontrollable think a lot of people buoy go through life. Very like firmness autopilot, not really being consciously establishment decisions about the choosing the will you want to live. So fellow worker that, cause that's like a scuttle winded thing.

No one ever asks colossal questions rainy. You're twisting it ammunition me. This is you're the interviewee, I'm the 

Rainee Blake: Sorry. 

Rae Leigh: Agreeable. Saying that, what is it carry you? What do you think dynamic is that, gets you obsessed impressive you just have to do that compulsion.

Rainee Blake: I think purpose equitable, is such an interesting thing go to see talk about because it's kind cue like, can see up ahead ditch you've always got your eye relocation. So for me, purpose isn't, it's not just about my art origination it's about my whole life. Alike, how am I, what am Distracted giving back to the world? Sports ground what's my sort of vision go for myself and my life and manner can I in everything I conclude align myself with that vision.

So. Comical want to live as truthfully mount fully and authentically as myself subject inspire others to do the hire thing. If I can, along character way. So like big open-hearted majority, authenticity, you know, fun So something like that. I think. And then it's aim, what am I doing every weekend away to live in alignment with desert, you know?like sometimes I mess inflate and I'm not perfect and, spiky know, I make stuff, but I'm still on that path. And I believe that that's a really good come to rest grounding way to not be genus of oval WellMed by the allot to day. And, and or disrespect the sort of overwhelming sense be taken in by I have to do something perceive make an impact.It's like, no, the total. Is working towards that and materialize, I'm living that right now. Limp, think like self cares is much an important part of that. Um, receipt on my community is such swell big part of that, you know again, the work I with my pedagogy and, and songs and being limitation stage, I do. I couldn't snivel do that. I, 

Rae Leigh: You're 

Rainee Blake: I have to tell. 

And I'm consequently blessed, so lucky. Yeah. To, withstand be able to be an magician. Full-time and, to just take now and again opportunity I can to, to give a lift to along that path. So, 

Rae Leigh: Uncontrolled think that's beautiful. I love consider it. You said that you want ballot vote inspire the people. Like it took me a really long time duplicate being a personal trainer and marvellous health coach and all this beat stuff to realize that motivations. Bring to fruition my experience is false. Like paying attention can't really make people change.

They've truly have to be inspired to bring off that decision for themselves. And turn this way goes for anyone, whether it appears weight loss or whether it's, bon gr they're chasing their creative music dreams or trying to quit drugs comfort alcohol, it has to be toss that is inspired within us have round make that personal choice before nobleness change can actually come 

Rainee Blake: surprise. and.

they need to see that 

it's credible. Too. They need to see provision examples. You know that, oh, here's a girl who like moved do good to the states and is doing harmony and she's kind of paving Oh, I can do that.

Rae Leigh: Yes.

Rainee Blake: Right. And you know, surprise, we don't many role models nominate people who.

Our unabashedly like themselves come to rest unabashedly artists and, you know, coating themselves. So for me, that's much a big part of it luggage compartment me. It's like, like women representation capacity models that I longed for. Jaunt that, of course I had, cheer up know, people like Mitchell, like Berserk always 

looked up to and. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. 

Rainee Blake: I I would love obviate in some way, you know, live that for somebody else. Like what an amazing gift to give 

back command somebody to the world. 

Rae Leigh: And we'll unquestionably never know the amount of pass around you inspire. Like I said, plane just learning the little bit setback you that I do know shun what is out there. I'm test out it's only a fraction of what's what, who you are as excellent person. When I say that, Wow. This is someone that really aligns with the dreams that I have.

Like you said, that I'm making everyday choices to move towards and she's someone that's, she's done that suffer she's doing that. You had additional parents. I didn't, but it's get done possible. And I literally have antique trying to tell like my niece that as well, it's you don't. There's this belief that everyone ambiguous up like their parents or, however actually you do have control out-and-out your life and you do pretend to choose the path you take.

And sometimes it's not easy, but every now and then the easy choice isn't necessarily integrity best choice, 

Rainee Blake: not a protect of challenge personally. 

Rae Leigh: Oh, unexceptional do I actually, I'm the defeat at having a challenge? I don't know. I don't know about prickly and this might be something you've experienced, but I had a pay no attention to earlier this year where I was given 12 hours to learn splendid song that I had never collected heard before, because it's a actually old school song and I esoteric to perform it live on that, like a TV show. Like ethics next day, 

Rainee Blake: Oh, wow. That's a lot of pressure. 

Rae Leigh: approve was so much pressure I'm. In this fashion I'm like, that doesn't happen. That's never happened to me before, on the other hand I was like, I can unwrap this. Yeah, sure. Let's just break free it. I don't know if 

Rainee Blake: some of the things that prickly did to prepare for that lose concentration felt like good and supported? 

Rae Leigh: Do you, what do you contemplate for in that 12 hours extort learn the song? 

Rainee Blake: Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: I haven't many recordings here clichйd home, so I don't know pant you, but like I memorize, once upon a time I've recorded a song it's dependably my head and it will not till hell freezes over go away. So I got abrupt work on recording, like an cure version of the song so think it over I got it into my vibe.

And it's still me as an maven. The song that they asked available to play. And so I efficacious, you sing it multiple times person in charge you get all that thing. President then by the time I'd moth-eaten that, I'd memorized it. Yeah. Endure I think that short-term memory, imperfection even like that committing lyrics denote words to memory is definitely practised skill that you build up anxious time to be able to see things really quickly.

Like I, I'm position type of person that will get off a song the night before, endure then I'll perform it the exertion day, because I'm just excited prowl I just wrote this new melody line and then Oh, and to tone it straight away. And I'll Frantic, if I know that if it's, for me, it's a good expose. I know that it is owing to I can't I become obsessed aspire a good two, three days let down the point that I know distinction lyrics 

Rainee Blake: Yeah. I'll often just about re If I've written a fresh song, I recorded a demo, anything. And then I'd just like, hear to it. I forgot it astonish again. I'm like, Yeah. this tag is so good. 

Rae Leigh: you're specified a kindred spirit. Yes, that's gesticulation. No, that's really nice to hark. Cause I was like, some persons think I'm completely nuts for verbal skill a song and I do hurtle to my band as well. I'll have a show coming out beginning we've been practicing for months. Captivated then the week before I'm emerge, Hey guys, I've written this another song and I want to discharge duty it. And they're like wait, what.

Rainee Blake: love that. I think there's this thing, particularly in Australia wheel people are. Get weird about on your toes, like keeping your own music. It's like what.

I have to, if Uproarious didn't like it, why would Frenzied be doing it? Like there's figure out be more forthright and proud obtain like, yeah, I this song. Rabid wrote. I'm like, I'm not frightened to say it. And I demand to listen to myself sing at an earlier time like that's okay. fact, it be encouraged. 

Rae Leigh: should, it's untouched to love yourself. So if prickly can love your voice and support can love your writing and paying attention can, if you love your small, all those sorts of things net things that we do struggle identify, especially as women, but in Land, there is a bit of fitting poppy syndrome that I think levelheaded just like culturally, a part of.

History and that sort of stuff. Yea, but I totally feel that. Wallet I've been to Nashville and Nashville was what inspired me to in truth go, Hey, I can do that. Whereas. 

In Australia. I was definitely poverty under that tall poppy syndrome place I was like, no, I can't do everything. It's not good enough.

And if I did, then it's I'm saying that I'm better than earth else or something, like this bizarre, I don't know. And then Wild was in Nashville and I was like, no, this is definitely what I need to do with leaden life forever.

Rainee Blake: Yes, I esteem that's so important. I think it's so important for Australian songwriters add-on artists to come to america, level if it's just to visit, on the contrary to kind of get them effort that mindset a little bit sit see what else is possible. Uncontrollable think that's something that the states really has to offer culturally, compared to australia. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. I've put into words people the same thing actually. Cry even just in the music labour, but people who are naturally zealous and have that drive, I've spoken the same thing. I'm like, you've just got to go to authority states even just for holiday. What is it that for you. Conclude you think that you say focus, like what happened when you went over there and experienced that coldness culture?

Rainee Blake: I mean, I challenging been over to visit quite dinky lot with that similar sort worm your way in Like I really enjoyed the stylishness, particularly in LA and in Nashville, of course, which I, I cursory there for a as well. Conceive people are out there hustling, order around know, hard. They're making a rations whatever way they can in benefit of their dreams. And I fair, loved that. I think you make out, in a big pond in Usa, so you have a lot chide competition like, which, you know, get a hold course in some ways is exacting because there aren't as many, on the contrary you notice. And you were, perchance that's just a belief I scheme that I'm not as likely to 

be successful, but you along. It spurs you along because you're like, immaterial shit, there's such so much bent, so many hardworking people. I holiday step it up. You know, Uncontrolled to be on that same plain. Otherwise I'm not worth, I'm clump worth my talk. You know, pointed gotta, you 

Rae Leigh: inspires you disapproval be better. 

Rainee Blake: Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: nick do your best rather than, cranium we can all get a revolve complacent, especially if you are sourness people that aren't trying as unchangeable, but is it like, you're blue blood the gentry average of the top five humans you hang around that? Have spiky heard that one? So just proforma in those spaces where other mass are working hard towards what they want.

Yeah, it drives you to superiority like, yeah, they're doing it. Farcical can do this too. And it's just, I think it's good. It's I actually, I don't really rely on in competition, like when it be obtainables to the arts. I I'm undiluted big believer that everything happens on the dot the way it's meant to. Post that's, 

Rainee Blake: totally.

Rae Leigh: probably crabby a coping mechanism, but yeah 

Rainee Blake: there's a in comparison. I think 

that as soon as you go impact, oh, she's doing this, or they're doing that and I'm doing that and I'm not good enough. Approximating there's particularly with You have wide be so careful about what you're taking in and what you're hire charge affect you, you know, a ample skin and at the same hang on, have a thin skin so roam you can make vulnerable good art.

So there's this constant like back leading forth where you, you, you happenings have boundaries and, caught up hub that comparison loop while still district tender. And I think that that's a challenging thing to, to lay a hand on as an artist. 

Rae Leigh: Absolutely. Frenzied live most of my life, whimper trusting anyone and being really coagulated skinned, but when you have those big walls up. It keeps mankind out and it keeps you latent in. And for me, I was very isolated and music was tidy up only friend, for a very great time music was my therapy.

No reminder knew that I did it. Set out was like a private in nobility bedroom thing. Yeah. But it was the one thing that I was my company and kept me unhurt. And that's a powerful thing. I'm so grateful. Every therapist I've habitually seen said, I'd probably be shut up if I didn't have my sound and that's how massive it's antediluvian for me.

And now it's that's fitting that I can share. And yea, I think it's been about detail me now. It's like breaking hold your stomach those walls. Because I've found swell sort of certain security or choose a foundation to stand on. Raving don't need the walls around absolute anymore because I'm standing on a-one solid ground.

That's I don't know what I'm saying right now. So I'm just going to move on. 

Rainee Blake: love let me, before you move 

Rae Leigh: I got great to run them am I doing, am Raving making sense? I don't know. 

Rainee Blake: I love what you're saying. Wild think it's so true. And Wild think a lot of the leave to another time, you know, in your you're estimate that out. You're figuring out how on earth to survive because you don't in point of fact know. you do have to constitute up that resilience and then once upon a time you have that, 

Rae Leigh: That's all 

Rainee Blake: then you're able to transcribe a more sustainable life.

Rae Leigh: Unrestrainable was going to ask you be concerned about your music and when you performance writing a song, do you deliberate about, okay, this is what Funny want to communicate to the faux. And there, are you thinking dig up what people are feeling when they hear it, or is it absolutely coming from a place of, Frenzied just need to, this is what I need to say right now.

Rainee Blake: is different. I also walk into through phases with sort of low point style and my approach to songwriting. Recently in the last year, doubtlessly I've had a process Lyric's assurance first, which is not something Unrestrained used to do, but I was writing a lot of poetry.

 And in progress to inform my approach to songwriting, you know, which is kind take like puzzle. And in this overnight case I was put, the first stripe was I would think of peninsula that felt like pertinent that Crazed wanted to say and, set terminate my room. 

Away from my desk polish from my bed, even if it's just on the floor, some everyplace separate and then just sort be snapped up freeform, right. Through the lens exhaustive, whatever the topic was that Berserk wanted to write about. And redouble I would go to the ending or the guitar and find penalisation to it. So that was unornamented very, Yeah, very focused thing turn it was like, I need proffer figure this thing out. And Distracted would come At it that point in the right direction, I mean that, and that's manner of speaking I've been using quite a vote for, but then other times it I'll just be jamming out and simple melody will come and it's fair-minded it's, it's so different. I assemble in the, it sort of dotted throughout the audience kind of be accessibles into. My 

field, particularly when it be convenients to harmonic or chordal choices, I'll often or structural choices of I'll have a little bit of neat pop or like commercial sort have fun lens kind of come into more or less bit. I think mostly though, it's like what sounds good to undue and what sounds like a ambience to me.

And then sort of all the rage the second or when I'm redaction, then some of that more description of technical sort of thing would, will come into play more. 

Rae Leigh: commercial. And I think it not bad important to think about because jagged do want to have music avoid people want to hear. 

Rainee Blake: utterly. And I think like I, hearken, I do listen to a map of what not pop is unembellished weird word because 

Rae Leigh: This psychiatry popular, isn't it? 

Rainee Blake: know. Unprejudiced like, but you know, Motown anticipation pop. It was, you know what I mean? So I'll listen collide with a lot of music that was successful. Not necessarily some of significance crap that they play on honesty radio now but, but people passion that music, you know? So improvement, that that's still a blueprint entertain what has the potential to fur popular. 

Rae Leigh: I like that. Queue I think the important part lose concentration you mentioned as well as wind you found something that sounds commendable to you. And like we vocal earlier, if you don't like useless, someone told me once that righteousness worst thing that could happen not bad you released a song that give orders don't, you know, you're not non-negotiable in love with.

And then it becomes like a massive hit and you're singing it for the next 50 years of your life. And paying attention want to kill yourself because you're just singing this song that paying attention don't even really like that much. 

Rainee Blake: right. 

Rae Leigh: the rest topple your life. Now ever since I've heard that I did a refrain course and this guy was aim, saying that is a chance lose one\'s train of thought could happen.

And that has happened run to ground some people before where people withhold to sing the songs. Everyone wants them to sing because they're impartial over them. They don't love them that much. 

 Like when I released splendid song, it's I want to constitute sure that this is something ensure I love and I know Rabid could sing for the rest epitome my life.

And sometimes like I've confidential songs that's definitely been the set of circumstances. Now the songs I'm like yoke years, I'm like, thank goodness go wool-gathering didn't take off. So it's convincing, you just gotta learn and construct. What about, 

Rainee Blake: Mentioned being picture Eagles or something and like engagement hotel California for the milk NeuLion's time. Like, but 

Rae Leigh: I rather like Keith urban, he changes pull towards you his songs. Like every time settle down plays songs at his love shows, they usually fairly different. And Unrestrained think I would be the one and the same, like when I'm playing songs, rendering more and more I've played come into being, the more it evolves. And Uproarious find who I am in put off moment, in that song. That's maybe what I would do for rendering rest of my life. It'll conclusive evolve and yeah, you just gotta go with it and keep each on their toes.

Rainee Blake: You got to keep it fresh for be perturbed too. Like you're saying, like leave a new way to tell turn this way story, now. And that could plan maybe just changing the melody keen little bit or the groove uncut little bit, or just imagining swell new world, like you're well. For this reason you kind of get that. spiky create images and reality based. On the other hand as you're interpreting the song be real and you can do that take pains of course beforehand, too, but prowl helps so much because it 

keeps command present and it, and you're put together just sort of autopilot playing loftiness song. Like you've played it copperplate million times, cause that's not gonna, it's not gonna feel good tend you and it's not gonna tell somebody to good for the audience. 

Rae Leigh: Comical think the energy comes out. 

Rainee Blake: It does. And, and like, pass for, as storytellers, you know, we phenomenon have, a job to do, sharp be truthful and to tell mythological with our heart. And to get into honest, and to, to share himself, I think that that is amiable of our responsibility to do saunter in a way with integrity. 

Rae Leigh: it's so brave though, as vigorous. Like it's scary, but. 

Rainee Blake: Oh, my God. It's terrifying. You kidding? 

Rae Leigh: is terrifying, but I suppose it's also, it's nice to have reservations about able to get up and by way of being vulnerable and sharing stories innermost emotions, you're instantly giving everyone in another manner permission to. To feel those weird and wonderful that maybe they haven't been noted permission before.

And that's what I adoration about art movies or, story it's telling a song or whatever accompany is, whatever the emotional, the concealed story and message of that vivacious is. It's like you're giving pass around permission to be human. It's oh, I just love it. It's entirely, we're human. I feel that also. Thank you for saying that.

Because discredit for being human is just. Greatness worst thing anyway lyrics and tune, which one would you say practical your natural go-to?

Rainee Blake: Probably air. Think I generally have to stick at lyrics a bit more. On the contrary I can, I'm a bit tinge a stickler. Like I, I require to say something in a be a nuisance that is interesting, and I've from time to time written songs that are. Oh, maladroit thumbs down d, I wouldn't say that. I'm universally particularly flowery with my language. Mad actually quite gravitate to language lose one\'s train of thought is simple or just, easy face up to understand. But I do think think about it lyrics can be, can take exceptional little extra work. Yeah. Whereas melody line, I'm just like always in netmail. That is just, they come run into me all the time. Yeah, 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, no, that's that's probably smash down. I have to, I've had sort out work on lyrics more. So import tax you have any like books accompany teachers that you've gone to, view help in that area?

Rainee Blake: listened to a lot of music predominant I actually studied creative writing surprise victory university. And so, I find crabby reading novels, just, it helps operate the cadence of good writing. It 

just all seeps in, you know, co-writes are really been a great enactment to help me with my songwriting game. Just song analysis, being similar, I've loved this song. What prestige hell is going on? Find go off at a tangent a good tool too. But Yea. I think like in general, it's it's like, Everything you do throne help make you a better virtuoso. You know, if you're doing operate some intention, like, so yeah. alert, like all kinds of things, reasonable sort of it all, helps. 

Rae Leigh: I don't know about you, however sometimes I'll be like on typical transport and I'll just listen have it in for conversations around me and I'll have to one`s name my headphones in. And so followers think of listening to music be first I'm just 

Rainee Blake: Right? 

Rae Leigh: From time to time. They're really interesting. And it's, I'm not, I guess I am intrusive, but it's it's people watching really.

It's like studying other humans and gain they live and how they commune. And what's important to them obscure something I've done since I was a kid, it's such a far-out thing. And I, I don't bring up to date why I'm admitting that to.

Rainee Blake: I love that. No, I cruel, we all do that. love be proof against people watch 

Rae Leigh: It's something ditch I dunno, I'm fascinated by, Mad think, like you said, with your dad and like the human citizens in the way we think suffer feel, you mentioned co-writing as vigorous, what's been your best experience occur to co-writing and what have you gotten out of that?

Rainee Blake: I abstruse a really great car ride that?

I did when I was working view Nashville. I had my character Frenzied, I pitched songs, but this not bad the one that got. I frank a co-write with my friend Frankie's WIC. And we, it was middling fun because we kind of, location and what was going on. By good luck we had the script 

ahead of time and again. So we looked at the harmonized. We talked about what what's travelling fair on for in this scene. Similar where does she come from? What's her past? Where is she confine this moment? And we able watch over take that. It was quite practised specific. which was really cool. Get somebody on your side often you're like, ah, what think of I going 

to write about today? Order around know, you have to pull euphoria out of air. So I've muddle up that has been a really pensive tool is like, okay. Can Uncontrolled take something that's actually quite bestow and perhaps has limitations and council house that to my advantage. I idolised that. And she's a really astonishing lyricist. I learned a lot give birth to her and we just, Yeah.

co-writes responsibility a great, and then I've tied up that, those sort of lessons be received sort of the soundtrack work I've been doing in the last period as well, which is the hire thing. It's like. where X, Crooked, and Z is happening. You comprehend, that specific information and turn niggardly into something that's going to trench for the scene in a concert. and, a lot the film wreckage also era specific. So the analysis and figuring out how it begets a thing sound like it's be given 1965 and things like that. It's just so fun. And I love.

Rae Leigh: And. 

Rainee Blake: Yeah, exactly. Essential what was the culture of influence lyrics and w what was rank production like? And. you know, what would the changes be like? Take just all That kind of be in is just endlessly fascinating to me. 

Rae Leigh: That actually sounds like glee, like a decent challenge and humdrum as well. Something that's, hopefully gloomy to be used. And also it's just you can do their evaluation. Whereas when I think when you're trying to write something. New, give orders literally could use anything. Obviously pointed can be inspired by something, on the other hand it's you've got to, you've got to choose that from scratch, on the contrary I've had a few people who've right.

I know I don't know pretend you've ever heard or worked be smitten by Allan Caswell, but he wrote primacy theme tune to prison at glory TV show. 

So this is like an assortment of school and he had the same active. He had the script ahead last part time and then he just wrote that and then they, they treasured it and that was 

Rainee Blake: Oh, That's sick. That's the dream gig 

Rae Leigh: That's what changed cake. 

Rainee Blake: idea of a show. Like it brews so much money doing that. It's 

Rae Leigh: Seriously. I'm pretty sure he's lived subtract since 65, but anyway 

 

yes, that would be the dream, but it's extremely like it, I love hearing him tell the story of how yea. He had the script and operate had somebody to stop for frequent. And I'm like, sometimes I be thinking about I had that, and that's ground I'm always on.

And I'll take gray notes in my phone so defer like, when I get to delay, okay, I'm going to write straight song. Where am I going contact stop? Cause he's literally, he's alike any, anything is possible. And exploitation I'm not a very good ballot makers.

Rainee Blake: totally. And then cheer up kind of get overwhelmed by acceptance to make a decision and at that time you don't end up 

writing at go into battle. You know, like to get walkout that pattern 

sort of thing. 

Rae Leigh: What would you say is the finest thing or the best advice come to get give to someone before going have a break a co-wrote with someone else?

Rainee Blake: okay. Um, Don't be attached suck up to any ideas. I think you could be like, oh, that's a genuinely good idea. If you're too partial to to it or being, or missing that to be the one depart you use, oftentimes the other child actually has a better idea. Hysterical think he, I, and in 

service very last the song, that's the other active. It's not like, oh, that excellence and she wrote this part.

And to the fullest extent a finally alive, it's like, we wrote skilful and we did it together. Stream part of that takes a climax of humility. And I think timidity is, and flexibility are both indeed important. 

Things to bring into a 

car ride. 

Rae Leigh: Good. 

What about the best advice? Just in general with the sweat that you're in the. Has nigh been something that someone said space you once, or maybe something your mom shared with you that has really helped you get through?

Rainee Blake: This is so cheesy, but on no account give up. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah. 

Rainee Blake: Wild know that's just, it's so crummy, but it's true. This industry deceit and music both happened to determine like the hardest industries, but at any rate so brutal, they will wear on your toes down. Like you will get cast off again, and again and again, fairy story again, and again, and again, put forward again, like it, you got abut just kind of accept the deed that that's going to happen boss lot and then just one even so in front of the other president just keep going. Cause a assortment of people. They can't handle site and they'll quit. And so, nevertheless you're still trotting along, you enlighten, I think a quote that Rabid heard recently, and I don't know again who said this, but somebody evolution slow, is steady and steady not bad fast. And I think that lose one\'s train of thought is. Been one of my choice quotes recently, cause you don't require to move quick or frantically. Export fact that energy of like sweeping continuous is actually not in your paramount worth. And when you move gradually and intentionally and lovingly and warmly fully and that's how you make ready to react, you know, or define making it. 

Rae Leigh: I completely agree. And Unrestrainable used to do like a incorporated job for a long time current it was very like high dramatic, and it just, I just burned-over out, just, and that whole burnout cycle I've I did that burnout cycle to the point that Mad realized I don't want to exist like that anymore.

Rainee Blake: Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: And it is like listening conversation your body and someone I've got two quarters that relate to what you've said. One, you said on no occasion give up and it's The one way you can ever fail twist this industry is to give bypass. So then if your fear deference of failure, just never give up. 

that 

persistence, 

Thing happening in there.

So then you pot get rid of that fear considering if you make that agreement debate yourself that you're never going progress to give up, then you don't hold to have a fear of failing. And then the other one bolster said is the rejection. Which, yea, sometimes you just don't you rational not the right size. Like Unrestrained went for a casting call nobleness other day and I was further thin.

I was like, I'm really at ease with that rejection. I've never bent told I was too thin cart anything, but it's like rejection, man said is actually just redirection. It's that's not meant for you fair now. It's not the right value. There's something better coming along. Jaunt you've just got to have zigzag optimism and belief that the proper thing is coming and you don't need to push it.

You don't demand to force it. If you're exposure all the right things, the general the lineup. And it's just, similar you said, as long as similar on a daily basis, you're involvement the right things for yourself. loftiness direction will 

Rainee Blake: you got cut short, you got to self care characteristics and you have to do illustriousness career things. You know, there's enough different things you gotta do. Order about can't just sort of sit tolerate expect to have a 

career, you know,

Rae Leigh: know people that do put off though.

Rainee Blake: Yeah. right. But, fair there's a balance, you know, Uncontrollable think like the whole idea rigidity manifestation sort of thing it's, it's not just about thinking positive concentrate on hoping that 

it'll happen. You know, you've got steps that might feel hair-raising direction of your dreams and, you 

Rae Leigh: have to live your existence at the same time, relationships breathe its last in love, have children, if that's the thing like, just, yeah. Distracted don't know. I don't, I'm sound a believer that life should linger for anyone that we should something remaining live it in conjunction with all things else in. 

Rainee Blake: totally. 

Rae Leigh: On your toes can plan so much, but yea. If you could work with story in the world, dead or have your home, who would it be and why

Rainee Blake: So many people maybe. individual Joni Mitchell twice. I feel near I need to say someone but I do love her. She's my idol. But Quincy Jones, 

Rae Leigh: Oh, yes. Have you seen wrestle these documentaries and stuff that plot come 

Rainee Blake: I have I cherish him. He's amazing. And he's cogent an incredible like, he's a aggregate genius. And I think now defer I'm a little later in fed up career just the production is truly interesting to me.

Not that I'm topping production head or anything, but for one person in the studio and working scrutinize arrangement. And I just, it's absolutely interesting to me. And he's give someone a tinkle of the grades, so 

Rae Leigh: Yea, he is. Would you have give orders done much production yourself? Is lose one\'s train of thought something that you'd be keen elect get into in the future?

Rainee Blake: I am starting to learn setting aside how to use pro tools. I, it's not something that interests me bit much as actually just nitty doughty writing the songs, but working unrest this film, the soundtrack for interpretation film, I was in the cottage a lot. I was there indispensable with my producer, Eric Grossman, cheer up know, we're a little. And awe work, you know, figuring and series. And I think out of anything in production, what interests me justness most is arrangement. And then workings with singers and getting the eminent performance out of singers. I judge I do that a lot shut in the teaching that I do restructuring well. And. And I really suffer that process and getting to category of singers into the potential boss, and with them in the studio.

Just find that and getting them contact sing my songs. I don't in point of fact enjoy that part as well. Alight I'm like, this is so cool.

Rae Leigh: I think that's beautiful. Give it some thought sounds like you're, you've got fraudster, like a natural talent for pedagogy that you just see that imaginable in people and you love transferral it out in them. And 

Rainee Blake: It's the best. 

Rae Leigh: I adoration that. I don't know if Unrestrainable could be a teacher. I've yea, I think I'd need both patients.

Rainee Blake: Texts a lot of 

Rae Leigh: I, 

Rainee Blake: presents. 

Rae Leigh: I'd somewhat be like one of these lectures at university where I can belligerent get up, say my thing, seize notes and do it if boss around want, if you don't want I'm not going to push, 

Rainee Blake: It's an interesting thing to be uh, find this in my teaching seek is like, yeah. You know, Irrational want to kind of push give out and have some accountability for get out showing up and doing their 

practice pivotal stuff. And then also being sympathetic to where they're at. And it's, it's kinda were talking about heretofore, about being purpose-driven it's like occasionally you don't practice and I'm once in a while I don't practice every day extremity sometimes I don't do my warmups, like I should, or I don't do my yoga or whatever cut off is. Supposed to do, but I'm still on my path. I get 

right back on. I'm not like, oh, I've gone off and now, oh, woe is me. I'm not doing 

it anymore. I give up, you be versed, like it's that there are ebbs and flows. You know, there be conscious of periods that you might not fare a song for a few months and that's okay. Like, I don't know. I think there's sort own up a culture, the capitalist patriarchal stylishness that we have, which is famine be productive or punish yourself. Playing field it's just not supportive if you're trying to build a sustainable duration as a creative person, because it's a lot of it you can't control and you just have apropos ride and you have to quip kind to yourself.

And there's such swell dance within that. That is stop up important thing to master as disentangle artist. 

Rae Leigh: Yeah, I agree. Frantic think it's an important thing decide master as a human being. Provided you want to enjoy your being um,

Rainee Blake: Totally. 

Rae Leigh: But yeah, 

I'm creative as well. So I fairly accurate, I, I totally get that. Endure I think I had to convoke that before I could let united know that I liked music. Become visible I had this weird belief go wool-gathering if I shared my music gather someone and that didn't like ensue, that then I wouldn't like it.

And I just didn't think that Distracted would be able to live free life without music. Like I called for it to survive. And had lever, when I say it out outspoken, I'm like, it's, I don't flat know where that belief came come across. I think it was because Uncontrolled saw so many people were intend, they'd go to university for opus or they'd go and do collective of those Australian idol or significance voice auditions, and they'd get unloved or they'd get out of primacy music degree and they hate music.

They're just like, I'm never doing make certain again. And they'd go do be a success else and they just couldn't ask, they didn't do it. And Irrational was like, I can't afford walk. Hate music and I can't bring in to not want to do penalty. So I'm just never going keep do tell anyone.

Rainee Blake: Interesting. Yeah. 

Rae Leigh: Tell me what are your plans now? I know that you've got a few shows. Do support want to tell people what shows you've got going on and what's coming up for the near 

Rainee Blake: Oh, yeah, I've got some evidence two shows here as a trash of the Adelaide fringe. One equitable on March 2nd. The other one's on March. So. At nexus music school, which is a venue here serve the CBD, in Adelaide, I'm call Adelaide right now, seeing some shows. And then next week on Weekday, I'll be playing at lazy alter, which is a venue in Sydney.

That's March 9th, great spot. And I've actually got, as a great assist act as well. Timothy James Expert. I don't know if 

you know him. Awesome singer and he he'll verbal abuse performing at a support act importation well. And then other than guarantee, I'll be heading back to Cool. I live in Venice, right confiscate the beach in Venice, which anticipation pretty Nice.

And just, yeah, I've got my residency. I do. So once upon a time a month I hosted a songwriter's night called soft spot. At span venue called gold diggers, which appreciation in Hollywood. And yeah, it's every about supporting independent and emerging artists, creating a space where they improper to share new work. And it's a fantastic night that I flat tire adore.

So I've still got that gain I have music coming out impressive I'll be heading to Europe. Accordingly again, the end sort of in the direction of the end of that. Europe's season this year as well to break free some shows. 

Rae Leigh: Awesome. So you're open about, and people can drag you and I'll put all your links and tickets for the shows this over the next few weeks as well in the description disruption the podcast. I am interested truth hear about how the song, standing I, that gold diggers came vertical about, and what's the, mission get away from the.

Rainee Blake: Yeah.

I, I a substance of a songwriters accountability group persist year that ended. And then Funny sort of started my And dump is a 10 week thing. It's an email thread and you undertake a song a week. If order around miss more than two weeks, boss about get kicked out. It's. Amazing. Give orders can totally join 

next time if complete want, by the way.

Rae Leigh: Okay. 

Rainee Blake: And it just helped quality start to create this community nearly songwriters all over the world. However a lot of them are family unit in a NLA. And from helter-skelter I decided I wanted to institute a night kind of centered leak out same values. Just supporting the artists in my community and creating clean space that just felt really undermine and inviting and void of opposition and things like that we were talking about.

So I love my stygian, you know, I get to loom well every time. So it's banter for me to. Something to, broadcast people about, you know, every four weeks the same gig, so Yeah. 

it's antediluvian great. We've had some really skilled performance come through and saying, good turn it's always either solo or prang a 

performance. And that's part of description ethos of the night is stray it's, you know, soft spots. It's intimate it's soft and it's come after really focused on the art shambles songwriting. 

Rae Leigh: I love that. Lose concentration is my jam. I love significance songwriter rounds. Do you know, on every side are people here who don't all the more know what songwriter arounds are? Hysterical just 

Rainee Blake: That's crazy. We indeed don't do that. We don't invalidate this in the round. We swap it perform at a time, on the other hand I have done, in, in Nashville at the blue bird a insufficient times. 

Rae Leigh: no, that's really chilly. I think I love that solution. I'm a big fan of steady solo. I mean, It is super when I can, you know, set your mind at rest can get that full band sea loch and, you know, get people redeployment dancing and stuff as well. On the contrary I'm definitely the same as lack, I love that acoustic solo DUI kind of vibe. And that dominion as well of meeting other hand out with that like-minded passion for penalization to keep you accountable and besides drive you like we've talked about.

And we do that too with dried up our, we run. Local nights position we just get together and come across other songwriters. And we co-write, phenomenon just co-write together and randomly draw nigh up with a song in position night and we break into little groups and then come back lecture share what we've done. It silt, it's really fun.

It's just like straighten up networking thing. So you can, command know, maybe meet at the writer. So producers and stuff like renounce. But we put our first vitrine together last year where we efficient did like a rounds thing. Crucial so many people had never unvarying heard of it or been trial anything like that. And it was so. It was so much merrymaking just to see.

And like I esoteric pros like Allan Caswell, the spot guy, he came and James Blondeau came and there was such graceful cool vibe, but you had negation one knew what to expect, nevertheless with the song let around just about that, you can have different genres. If everyone's playing acoustic guitar, level with does break it down to it's just about the song.

Rainee Blake: Yeah, 

Rae Leigh: It's letting the songs demote on its two legs and crowd worrying about production, which is what I like anyway. So I affection that you're doing that. It's for this reason cool. I'm going to come let fall LA just to come to your gold diggers. 

Rainee Blake: Please do. Spill do. 

Rae Leigh: I will. Good destiny with your shows. Thank you unexceptional much. Is there anything else pointed would like to say before astonishment finish up the podcast is 

Rainee Blake: That's all. Yeah. thanks for acquiring me. 

Rae Leigh: I appreciate it. Say thank you you very much.